A "GOLDEN CLUSTER" OF HERITAGE
Sorry for the delay in getting back. Edgar Wood was enthusiastic about design and architecture and in the late 1880s and early 1890s he ran classes across what is now Greater Manchester. This showed him to be someone with a hands-on and practical approach. He seems to have moved towards lecturing in the 1890s, though he was not an avid lecturer or article writer like some of his contemporaries. He expressed himself mainly through his designs and personally with colleagues and other artists and architects.
We know of eleven lectures from 1891 to 1922 but we only know what Edgar said in detail for just three 1900, 1911 and 1912. The subjects he covered were practical and artistic.
I apologise for the two month delay. Corvid 19 appears to have got in the way!
I’m familiar with the books. Are they close enough to Middleton for you to deliver or for me to collect?
Thanks very much for contacting us.
Hello Bryan. I knew May Moores and my brother, Norman, knew Alex/Alec. I put your question on Old Middleton New Middleton (Facebook) and had a number of comments. Here’s a couple:
Yes , I lived near that bakery . I went past there a while back and it was still a bakery , don’t know if it’s still open . In those days when May had it , it was thriving , 5 or six serving at a time . She did catering as well.
I lived on Waverley Rd when I was a kid. Remember May Moore’s bakery well. Proper muffins. It was the end shop where the round about is. There was also William Newsagent. There was a grocers a clothes shop and an ironmonger shop. Can’t think of their names. It’s going to haunt me all night till I remember It was about 54yrs ago.
And from Norman
Yes May Moore’s had a bakery on Hollin Estate and her son Alec worked for a long time in The Netherlands commuting between Manchester Monday morning returning for the weekend on a Friday. Mrs.Moores if I remember correctly, retired to the City of Gloucester
Hollin Estate is on the Rochdale side of Middleton. I lived about 500 yards as the crow flies from May Moores’ shop.
Hope this is of some help.
I will forward your email onto a local historian. Best wishes.
I knew a person ‘Alex Moores’ in Canada over 40 years ago. His mother ran a shop in Middleton or Oldham called ‘Moore’s Pie’. They were apparently well known in the surrounding area.
In the estate of my late husband who came from Rhodes/Middleton I find two booklets entitled „Memories of a Middleton Moonraker“ by Alfred Howarth and „Middleton in “ by Morris Garratt and John Cole.
Could someone please advice me what I could do with them?
Hi, has anyone come across any of Woods lectures he gave? Thanks
I’ve forwarded your query to a local historian. Best wishes, Site Admin
Hi I wonder if you can help with research on my .family history
My Brother , Peter Liddle , was born in Macclesfield ,March 1943 ( no exact date) , but the family had no connections with that area , all being cotton workers in Middleton . I wonder if this may be due to evacuation during the was and if so was this common practice.
Also I am trying to access parish records for both St Leonards Church and St Micheals and wonder if you have a link ?
Normally I would visit the library but of course not possible in the unusual time
Hi I would like them if still available I live in the centre of Middleton and have done since birth.
The fire damaged Tonge Hall was partially repaired and stabilised by Heritage Trust for the North West with a grant from Historic England around 6 years ago. Originally, it was going to be passed to the Trust for restoration but instead Rochdale Council took ownership and has run the site since. In 2016, Rochdale Council was planning to sell some land for development and use the money as an enabling development for restoring the Hall, see…
But we have heard little since.
Please can you inform me what is the current situation with Tonge Hall. It seems such a shame it is being left in the sorry state.
He will never be forgotten..
I went to St Leanords grave yard a month ago
I went six times to find Samuels grave ..I was lucky the last time I went
because I bumped into one of Samuels family members who finally
found the grave ..you coudn,t read the inscription on his stone.
Two days later I went and cleaned his headstone , and now you can read
what this great man did for us all.
I sketched a map of just where in the cemetry his grave lies
and I gave copy,s to the central library in Manchester
and some copy,s to Middleton library and some copy,s to Touchstones Museum in rochdale..
His memory will never be forgotten ..
I went to find Samuel Bamfords grave and couldn,t find it ..I went six times until there was a member of his family
who shown me where it was ..but even then we couldnt read the inscription on his stone
..so I went home and got some cleaning material went back and cleaned his grave stone…now you can read what this man for the people did for us all..
I did a map of just where the grave is and I gave Manchester Central library some copys
as well as Middleton library and touchstones in Rochdale..
Dear sir or madam. My g g grandfather was Harvey’s Heywood, Mayor of Middleton, who lived at Parkfield House. There is a window by Christopher Whall to him and great grandfather William Dickins Heywood in St Leonard’s. I have various photos of the family and Parkfield House, which became the town hall. Would be delighted to share. With best wishes. Oliver
Happy new Year. Yes, I’m sure they would be. I’ll write separately to you. David M.
I wonder if you can help. I have been clearing out my grandfathers belongings and have come across a number of books and photographs relating to Middleton and the surrounding area from 1860 to WW1. Would these be if any interest to anyone at Middleton heritage? I can’t bring myself to throw them away but am not really sure what to do with them!
Do you have any more dates planned for screening A Painter Veil please
Hello My name Sydney Drew I live in Canada I am Direct Relative of The DREW family From Middleton Norfolk my Great Grandfathers Great Grandfather was William High Drew born 1801 in Middleton hes the half brother of John Drew the builder of Middleton Blackborough End Mill.. I have up to Williams Great Great Fathers father John & Elizabeth Drew .. Any other info on my Family would be so helpful . my email is ..
I, like most of my family, was born in Middleton.
I am approaching 65 and my last remaining blood relatives older than me are 87 & 88 and both suffering dementia.
Before we all ‘pass away’ I am curious to find out more about our ancestry.
Wondering if you could assist in any way?
Please be informed that Derek Elliott passed away on Monday 5 Feb. Funeral provisionally at Middleton Crematorium on 15 Feb at 1:30pm
Tickets are not needed. Just turn up (better come early).
Are tickets needed for the screening of A Painted Veil in Middleton on the 15th March?
I’ve passed your message onto the Family History Group.
Can you send me information about the Langley Family ?
I know they resided at Langley Hall ,Birch in Hopwood but would like to know what land belonged to them?
Did they come under the rule of the Hopwoods of Hopwood Hall ?
Which Family owned Birch.
Sorry about the late reply. Middleton’s Revolutionary Architect is not actually a booklet but a small display. It contains a number of Andy’s photos but the photo exhibition proper is hung in the school buildings adjacent the Arts & Crafts Church. There is also a guide leaflet on the Long Street Buldings plus a new Edgar Wood Middleton trail booklet. If you would like to visit the buildings, please let me know.
I wonder if it’s possible to obtain a copy of the Middleton’s revolutionary architect booklet? Is this part of Andy Marshall’s photographic exhibition? If not, is there any way of seeing the pictures. I have a newish found interest in Edgar Wood,
save this masterpiece by Edgar wood
I support the application . It is important to save this type of architecture and it is also important to create a community facility.
The Society for the Arts and Crafts Movement in Surrey supports the grant application to Viridor to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they may be brought back into community use.
Society for the Arts and Crafts Movement in Surrey exists to celebrate and foster interest
in all forms of art, architecture and design of ‘the Arts and Crafts Era’ – the period from
1860 to 1930. The Society is concerned with the conservation and awareness of works associated with the period and is gathering together information such as publications, photographs and drawings relating to this extraordinary period of creativity in Surrey.
The Society was formed in 1996 to act as a forum for those who share this interest and enthusiasm and currently there are around 200 members.
In early September twenty four members of our Society visited the Middleton Wesleyan Church and Schools designed by Edgar Wood and had a guided tour of local houses and buildings by Wood that was led by knowledgeable and enthusiastic members of the Edgar Wood Society.
On a subsequent day we were able to view the exterior and interior of the First Church of Christ Scientist in Victoria Park designed by Wood at a later date and demonstrating his architectural development in an imaginative and striking composition using a splayed plan.
We were greatly impressed by the originality of design and the fitness for purpose of the earlier Long Street Church and School. The simplicity of the buildings, set around the courtyard garden, with the contrasting scale and form of the tall Gothic style Church and the domestic grouping of the School buildings is most effective. Where used – and generally used sparingly to highlight the most significant features – the decorative detailing to be found in the buildings, whether in brick, stone, wood, metal or glass is of the highest quality and craftsmanship; the epitome of Arts and Crafts design.
We would stress the importance of the Middleton Wesleyan Church in the roll call of Arts and Crafts churches in Britain that present a harmonious entity of design of building structure, church fittings and decoration. St Mary the Virgin, Great Warley, All Saints, Brockhampton, St Andrew’s, Roker, St Martin’s, Blackheath, and St Sophia, Lower Kingswood – and most famously
– Holy Trinity, Sloane Street, Chelsea are amongst the few gems of the period.
Our collective experience of viewing Arts and Crafts buildings over a period of the twenty years of our Society’s existence and especially our knowledge of the wide-range of examples of Surrey’s Arts and Crafts buildings – by the famous names of the period – Lutyens, Voysey, Baillie-Scott and their pre-cursors GG Scott, GE Street, Norman Shaw and those less well known names such as Harrison Townsend, Thakeray Turner, Christopher Hatton Turnor or Alfred Powell, provide a platform from which the significance and quality of the work of Edgar Wood may be considered comparable with the best of the Arts and Crafts architects and his is one whose name should be better known.
It must be acknowledged that the Long Street School buildings, whilst having the advantage of retaining original features, face the challenge that some areas of the buildings are deteriorating in condition and may not meet modern requirements for facilities and services. The best way to safeguard this significant example of Middleton’s Arts and Crafts heritage is to ensure an on-going future use by the local community with restoration of the buildings for this purpose. Community use would be most appropriate, reflecting the historic use of the site and being more likely to involve fewer and more sympathetic changes to the buildings than other uses might require.
This seems a very worthwhile application, and well worth saving for the community of people in Middleton.
I support the application for restoration
I fully support the saving of these buildings so that they can be brought back into use by the community and appreciated for alll their historical and architectural importance.
We support the application to restore the edger woods building
I fully support this grant application. Edgar Wood and his buildings, especially historically important ones like Long Street Church and its adjoining school buildings are landmarks in Architectural History and deserve greater recognition. The school buildings should be restored and maintained by being brought back into life through community use, which will not only bring benefits to the people of Middleton but will help to raise the profile of Edgar Wood and his work.
I would like to add my support for this restoration project.
We fully support the application.
Gill & Trev Hayward
We fully support the application
I support the grant application to Viridor to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they can be brought back into community use.
As part of a wider community of conservation professionals who appreciate and value the Long Street Edgar Wood buildings, I support the application for grant to provide a viable future use for these buildings.
I support the grant application to Viridor for to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they can be brought back into community use
We loved the whole area. Please keep it going for all to enjoy. The volunteers have done a brilliant job.
The significance of Edgar Wood’s Middleton Wesleyan Church and Schools can hardly be overstated. It stands alongside his First Church of Christ Scientist in Fallowfield as the only remaining uncompromised example of his innovative and imaginative church architecture – and, wonderfully, Middleton retains all of its internal fittings. Wood’s leading role in the Northern Art Workers Guild indicates his importance in proselytizing Arts & Crafts ideas in Lancashire, and bringing freshness and originality to architectural design comparable with what was emerging meanwhile in London, Glasgow and Birmingham. The buildings at Middleton express a defiant, positive, progressive attitude amongst Methodists in Lancashire at the start of the 20th century which seems now both brave and inexplicable – yet which foreshadows in a way the “faith school” approach to education of more recent governments, integrating education and ethical values. And, on top of all that, it has some of the most beautiful Arts & Crafts glass in its doors, reminiscent of the work of Charles Rennie Mackintosh. It is a jewel which must be treasured so that all can benefit from its magnificence. In architectural history terms, Middleton stands alongside a small group of Arts & Crafts ecclesiastical masterpieces which are only now – not a moment too soon – being recognised and appreciated for their importance in Britain’s cultural history: Holy Trinity, Sloane Street, Chelsea; All Saints, Brockhampton, Herefordshire; St Andrew’s, Roker; and Edward the Confessor, Kempley, Glos. I wholeheartedly support and commend the application to Viridor for a grant to help in its restoration.
Recently visited the work of Edgar Wood in Middleton with a group from the Arts and Crafts Movement in Surrey. All 24 in the group were most impressed with Long Street Church and Schools which are a fine example of his work. It is clear that a dedicated band of enthusiasts have put a huge amount of effort into doing what they can to preserve these buildings. However, it was also clear that much still needed to be done to help preserve them. We wholeheartedly support this grant application.
Nice to see a remarkable heritage building being saved rather than destroyed.
We fully support this grant application to Viridor in order to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton.
I fully support this great project and believe that this building could play even more of a strong part in our community.
I fully support the grant application to Viridor for to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they can be brought back into community use.
We are standing at pivotal moments regarding our historical architectures and need to save building such as this. If we don’t we risk being condemned by future generation for our reckless disregard for precious things that quite simply can never be replaced.
To restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they can be brought back into community use seems like an excellent and viable reuse. Keeping the structures inhabited and used is vital for their long term survival and I support the grant application by Viridor.
I support the grant application to Viridor for to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they can be brought back into community use.
I have been a committee member for the Edgar Wood Society since it’s formation, and have been a huge Edgar Wood fan since I was a child. His buildings are what makes me most proud to be from Middleton, they are a legacy of the most forward thinking, innovative and ground-breaking architect that this country has produced. He was a true pioneer with examples in one small town that pre-date the accepted thinking on both Art Deco and Art Nouveau design. Long Street School is a true Arts and Crafts wonder and this grant would be a wonderful way to help preserve this world-class complex.
We fully support this application to restore and to bring back into community use this masterpiece of Edgar Wood. Wood is to Middleton, Manchester and the northwest what Mackintosh is to Glasgow and Scotland and this project will help to ensure that his architectural legacy is preserved and is given the local and indeed national recognition it deserves
I support the application to restore this wonderful arts and crafts masterpiece for the local community and the nation.
I support this grant project
I wholeheartedly support this grant application to Viridor to restore the Edgar Wood school buildings, Long Street, Middleton, Manchester.
Our family have used these buildings for generations, they are an important part of our heritage and it is essential that they are preserved for future generations to be able to appreciate and see the wonderful architecture and historical value they hold.
A definite community asset to the town, with the opportunity for people to take part in local heritage, cultural, art events to name a few..
We support the grant application to Viridor to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they can be brought back into community use.
Unlike in the Home Counties, where the work of Arts and Crafts architects has long been valued, that of their equally talented colleagues in the North of England has been much less appreciated. Edgar Wood was probably the foremost pioneer of Arts and Crafts architecture in the North West and we must not miss the opportunity to conserve the Long Street complex, which is one of his most important works.
Barrie and Wendy Armstrong.
This project will help revitalise a historic building and greatly benefit the local and wider community. A very worthwhile venture.
I support the grant application to Viridor to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton
We support the grant application to viridor to restore the Edgar Wood school buildings at long Street Middleton . It is so important to retain this Arts and Crafts building .
Having served as the Area Manager North West and then the National Operations Manager for ENTRUST, the Government Appointed regulator of the Landfill Tax Credit Scheme, I would like to offer my support to this proposal.
I wholeheartedly support the application for this grant. As so much of our local heritage is sadly being lost as a horrific rate, whilst this wonderful building is loving looked after by volunteers. It is truly a jewel in Middleton’s crown and deserves to remain so, for generations to come.
I support the grant application to Viridor for the restoration of the Edgar Wood School Buildings at Long Street Middleton so that they can be brought back into community use.
We support the grant application to Viridor for he restoration of the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they can be preserved and brought back into community use.
I absolutely support the project to restore this fabulous building. There is no way that a building as beautiful as this, with so much architectural importance should not be restored for future generations to appreciate.
I wholeheartedly support the grant application to Viridor for to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they can be brought back into community use. Too many unique buildings are being left to rot or demolished when they could be restored for future generations to love and appreciate.
The Edgar Wood School and Church building is not only a loved, and an important piece of the architectural heritage of the area. It also offers an array of spaces of varying sizes which can cater for a wide range of community needs and requirements, space which is becoming hard to come by. I wholly support the restoration of this building for the people of this generation and the next.
We as a Family offer our full support for the grant application to Viridor for the restoration of the Long Street School buildings, this an outstanding and well loved part of Edgar Wood’s Arts and Crafts heritage in Middleton and offers great potential for wider community use.
The school at Long Street by Edgar Wood is without any pre-cursor. Ongoing research is showing that the building is unique not only in local circles but also in national and international circles in terms of it’s revolutionary style and approach. This building is perhaps the only material embodiment of a relationship formed between its architect Edgar Wood and the internationally renowned architect Charles Rennie Mackintosh.
Edgar Wood was an architectural ‘pop star’ of his day and there is growing recognition of a man whose body of work was celebrated in Hermann Muthesius’s Das Englische Haus.
The building has always served the community and its best chances of survival remain in such service.
I totally agree that Long Street School should be restored for community use. There are fewer places that can host community and charity events that are suitable for all ages. I feel it would be used greatly. I would certainly use it for charity events as I am sure other local charities would.
Oldham Cats Rescue in Middleton
If the local architect’s school buildings (Edgar Wood) can’t be saved, that is a great shame. I support this grant project for this reason.
Also I remember going to youth club here, it’s a beautiful building it must be opened back to the community.
Best of luck
I support the grant application to Viridor for to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they can be brought back into community use. The design of the Church is architecturally fascinating and well deserving of preservation for future generations to appreciate the work of the great architect, Edgar Wood.
I strongly support the restoration of the school rooms at Long Street Methodist Church. I went Sunday School at Long Street and also progressed through the Cubs and Scouts. I was a member of the congregation and also participated in a number of activities in the various school rooms. The Church complex is a real masterpiece and is really worthy of saving for future generations.
Long Street school is of such local hisorical importance that i fully support the project to preserve it for future generations. To bring it back into use for the local community will be such a huge asset and legacy.
Restoring the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton will enable members of the community to use and enjoy them. I therefore support the grant application to Viridor.
I would like to show my support of the work required to upgrade facilities at Long Street Methodist Church to a standard acceptable to allow the buildings to be brought back into community use and to help preserve the future of this important Grade II* listed building designed by Edgar Wood. As a local, I value our buildings of heritage and fully support the good work of the Arts and Crafts Trust.
My daughter was part of brownies and girl guides they would use that room for srt&craft badge work
I also support the grant application to viridor for to restore the Edgar Wood school buildings at
Long street Middleton so that it can be used by the community in and around Middleton.
I totally support this grant project Long Street School is an Arts and Crafts masterpiece and should be loved and cared for so the whole community and future generations can benefit.
I wholeheartedly support the grant application to Viridor for to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they can be brought back into community use.
I went to Sunday School at Edgar Wood’s Long Street school so, as a former member of the congregation at the Methodist Church who also got married there, I have a strong connection with the building.
To see it used to its full potential would be an asset to the community of my old hometown.
I consider Edgar Wood to be one of the most important Arts & Crafts architects of the north of England. His work is important nationally and internationally. His design and deal work is on a par with Baillie Scott and Guy Dawber in my opinion. To lose this important building would be tragedy in terms of architectural loss and community use. I hope that it can be retained, loved and used as it was intended and that Manchester recognises and retains this important heritage asset.
Neil Quinn (former Manchester resident and Architect)
BA Hons Arch Dip Arch ARB RIBA IHBC
Edgar Wood’s reputation as one of the country’s outstanding arts and crafts architects is well established- and well deserved. I support the protection of his work.
Barry Joyce MBE, Dip Arch, MSc conservation.
Edgar Wood reputation as one of the outstanding arts and crafts architects is well established- and well deserved. I support the protection of his work.
Barry Joyce MBE, Dip Arch, MSc conservation.
Buildings such as this are vital to the history of the arts & crafts movement. I support the grant application to Viridor for to restore the Edgar Wood School buildings at Long Street, Middleton so that they can be brought back into community use.
I would be very interested in hearing if any future news & development
I gave my support by email, saying
“I would like to express my support for the restoration of Long Street
I have visited the school and neighboring church before to see the
unusual architecture, and was fascinated by the design and history.
Edgar Wood is an architect that Middleton should be really proud of, and
the architecture, while beautiful and important, is also very calming
and non-threatening. I think these things make it a great venue for
I enthusiastically support this grant project. Long Street School is an Arts and Crafts masterpiece that is lovingly cared for by a team of volunteers. It has great potential for community, heritage and cultural events.
Congratulations everyone for such a successful day and all the work that went into it. I wish I could have been there, so thanks also for such a detailed post.
Great to see the first Golden Cluster visitors having such a good time. Well done to all the volunteers. David M.
Congratulations to Christine for her nomination – the importance of the contributions both she and husband Geoff have made to Middleton’s heritage cannot be emphasized enough. It has never gone unnoticed by those that have had the pleasure of working with them, and this nomination was a very well-deserved recognition for the effort put in!
The garden looks as if keeps you fit and healthy!
There is still a long way to go! David
We’ll email you back shortly.
I am arranging a tour of Manchester for the Arts and Crafts Movement in Surrey in September 2016. We are a specialist group interested in everything to do with the Arts and Crafts movement. On Thursday, 15th, we are having a tour of the Victoria Baths, Hathersage Road. I would like to go to the First Church of Christ Scientist on Daisy Bank before this but have no contact details. Do you have any, please? On Wednesday 14th September, we will have a coach and will be going to the church at Marple and Bramhall in the afternoon. In the morning, I wondered if we could do a visit to Middleton to see the exhibition and key buildings. Would you be able to advise and help with this? How long would we need? I look forward to your reply.
My daughter lives at 24 Mount Road Alkrington Middleton in an Edgar Wood property but it isnt featured on this website.
I’ve been looking at references to The Lodge and Lodge St in the Middleton Guardian. I presume The Lodge is the first property, now a chicken bar?
Do you have any photos of your gran’s house and what was her name?
I think you’re correct about it being a lodge to the Hall. The main driveway was from Market Place and as the town was developed, Old Hall St seemed to become the new entrance; but this would be short lived because a few years later, the Hall was demolished 1845) and Dronsfield’s mill was built on the site. This was later destroyed by a fire and the Albany was built in its place.
The research of the old boundary is fascinating.
I would just like to mention that my grandmother lived on Lodge Street during the late 30’s early 40’s, and this house was always referred to in the family as the Lodge. Could this have been connected to Middleton Hall?
Why is there no mention on this site of the Edgar Wood Drinking Fountain at Birch in Hopwood?
Rochdale Council have been constantly been lobbied for its Restoration and Relocation since 1996
Many thanks, I’ll pass this on.
My great Uncle William Percy Patchett was kindly remembered by Leslie Richardson in a scroll with his details. Is Mr Richardson part of your group? I am in Australia and wished to thank him for his kind gesture. My great Uncle sadly died just toward the end of the war, having fought through much of the worst of it. My Grandmother never really got over his loss. He was gone before my mother was born and so of course we now have very little information about him.
If Mr Richardson is in your group, would you kindly convey my thanks.
Shirley Mac Donald